"Well it all depends on what pay scale they're on. If they're on a higher scale than us we'll just have to do what they say."
"No," I respond, "it depends on what we're talking about and what we agree is the best option for delivering something useful."
"Not really. If they're on Principal Officer grade they'll always have the last say."
"It doesn't matter what scale you're on. If you're on scale 5 and everyone agrees that you've a better idea than the person on PO6 then you'll be going along with your plan."
"What makes you say that?"
"I've done it."
I have this awful mental picture of a group of people getting together for a meeting and starting of with: "OK then, what pay scale is everybody on, just so's we know who gets to make the decisions."