"Where are these for?" I ask.
"I've no idea, and neither has anybody else," he replies.
"'T.Aldous has got the list,' that's what they told me."
"Does it matter if T.Aldous has got the list? They're in charge now so they can go wherever they decide."
"Oh no. They can't go anywhere until somebody gets the list off T.Aldous, just in case they get it wrong."
T.Aldous is retired. He doesn't work here any more. He is a member of the public.